University Web Developers

University Web Developers

We currently are running about 30 blogs on WordPress MU. As we contemplate expanding this service, does anyone have experience with Using WordPress MU in much larger numbers?

Tags: blog, blogging, mu, platform, wordpress

Views: 306

Replies to This Discussion

The key to WordpressMU is that for each user, it creates new tables for their blogs (8 new tables). This can potentially be limiting on certain file systems beyond around 32,000 blogs. More than that, and you have to start splitting things up in the database, which will begin to look very cludgy. But, according to WPMU docs, they have found that to be the most efficient way to handle data and provide for plugin functionality. Really, it comes down to the difference between a system with a lot of rows, or one with a lot of tables. Some people consider Drupal to be superior for large scale growth, but more than likely it's a preference issue, and you probably won't push WPMU to its breaking point. And with separate tables, there's less chance of something bad in one blog poisoning others.

WPMU is designed for growth, so odds are you wouldn't see any problems. At least you certainly shouldn't. If the server's got a little horse power, you shouldn't notice any difference between 30 or 300 or even 3000, assuming they aren't all super high traffic generators.

http://mostrey.be/mu_blogging_wordpress_drupal
Isnt wordpress.com run with MU? Also eduweb blogs? Those are both pretty large install I would assume.
Yes. Though Wordpress.com doesn't run it as it is out of the box (nor would I assume eduweb blogs). They are doing enormous database clustering and replication, along side additional database slave servers, something not available by default. In reality their claim that you can "[run] hundreds of thousands of blogs with a single install of WordPress" is not entirely true, because of the physical limitations of file systems.

But yes, they are using WPMU, they just have some big iron to back it up and meet the enormous demand they have. I can't imagine a college coming remotely close to that kind of need, unless they give a blog to every student, whether they use it or not.
Which brings me back to the purpose of my original my original question. I'm curious of the pro's and con's of using WordPress MU as a campus-wide blogging platform for students, faculty and staff. For me, that would mean making it available for 27,000 + students, although I am sure only a fraction of that would actually use it.
Regardless of use, if the blogs are created, you're looking at file count bloat because every new user results in something like 24 new files for database table handling. So you're going to have to dump quite a lot of money into hardware to handle it all to balance things out, probably a minimum of four servers (two for balancing, two for redundancy). That scales up the longer you offer the service.

I would argue that there isn't necessarily a need to meet there. Kids, especially today, come to college with things like blogs already in place. Why offer them yet another? What problem or need is that answering? Beyond that, you are then locking yourself into support and perpetuation of that. Do you still want to be maintaining and offering blogs for people 10 years down the road (at which time you'll be way beyond your initial 27,000)? Are you prepared to handle backlash in the event that you can no longer host them? At most, I would just make the service available IF people wanted it. Let them sign up if so, and not if they don't, and prune inactive accounts yearly or something.

You might be better off investing in something like Ning, or Facebook. Create a social network where people are that are using blogs, and create a hub there for people. They have the big iron in place to handle everything seamlessly, and it lifts the support burden off of you. You can also leverage their tools, rather than trying to compete against them.
I agree with Michael. A campus install of WordPress MU makes sense for managing Web sites for formal departments, offices, and organizations, but as to personal blogs, does the institution need to replicate external services?

That said, BuddyPress is a set of plug-ins for WPMU that provides a Ning-like experience (including "blog" posts, friends, etc.) for local hosting.

Haven't prototyped it yet (still in beta), but it's interesting ... and it's supported by Automattic. Anyone working with it?
I'm curious about the BuddyPress plug-in also. This may have just changed a future project I was looking to work on.
From: http://cuwebd.ning.com/forum/topics/structure-for-scalabilty-of?pag...

We are under planning stage on the development of a multi blogging system using WordPress MU. I found a slide from Joseph Scott http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2008/09/01/slides-from-wo... on slide 48. Is there any other setup that can be done? Anybody can share some best practices on the scaling up and setting a redundant server for WordPress MU?

As planned, we want to maximized the the number of blogs and optimized the resources as possible, because we want to anticipate the number of bloggers for future comings.

Anybody had some ideas regarding the pros and cons for the types caching in maximizing the speed? that was discussed on slide 38. And what are the best practices in handling a multi blogging system on WordPress MU?


Mark Greenfield - How many blogs are you planning? There was a similar discussion on this topic last December:
I was looking for some methods on how to mirror 3 web servers to synchronized it in real time or near real time?
If you're looking to do mirroring/load balancing type stuff, you might look into Squid. It's like a proxy caching system, that does load balancing, and the whole shbang. No idea how nice it would play with a Wordpress MU environment.
Agreed, legacy support for this stuff can be a deal killer. I also like the hub methodology, where you provide a space for people to show their public spaces of all types.

RSS

Elsewhere

Latest Activity

Sean Walsh posted a blog post

The Results are in: TERMINALFOUR Higher Education Web Survey

In our first annual higher education web survey report, almost 250 individuals and 169 higher education institutions reveal where they focus their online marketing activities, how they measure their online efforts and how they engage with their audiences. Discover the results for yourself by downloading a free report today: http://www.terminalfour.com/survey2014/See More
34 minutes ago
Mike Tackett is now a member of University Web Developers
yesterday
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Look who’s responsive now! Clark College went live with their new site. Congratulations! www.clark.edu/"
yesterday
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"  How well do your campus emails render on mobile devices? Read about our Email Campaign Manager in today’s blog post! "
Tuesday
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Nominations for the third annual Critics' Choice CMS Awards are closing Oct 1! Don’t forget to submit OU Campus for consideration. Recommended categories include: Best Enterprise JAVA CMS, Best Cloud CMS for Enterprise, and Most…"
Monday
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"  After the mad rush of classes starting, how do you keep your web editors energized for the rest of the academic year? Read how Lower Columbia College does it in today's blog post!"
Sep 12
Profile Icondavid wickins, Alice Nguyen and John Hartley joined University Web Developers
Sep 12
Seth Meranda posted a discussion

Seeking an Web Interactive Producer

I'm looking to add someone with HTML/CSS and UI/UX experience to my team at Concordia University, Nebraska. We're located just outside Lincoln, NE.Position Summary:  This position serves as a member of the marketing communication team and provides leadership and strategy for the creation, implementation and maintaining of web and email productions used in promotion and advancement of the University's mission.General Duties:Implements, designs and optimizes user interfaces for cune.edu and…See More
Sep 11
Nancy R. Bailey posted a discussion

Web Development Specialist

The Institute for Transportation Research and Education at North Carolina State University is looking for a web development specialist (technology support analyst).  To provide support and consult on web development, design, coding, and modifying hosted websites.  Provide web application development and web communications support, as well as maintain duties for web-based projects which include interactive multimedia, graphics, tutorials, and social media.  Knowledge of and experience with…See More
Sep 10
Maggie Slater commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Such great information within the talk! Thanks for sharing!  :)"
Sep 9
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Missed yesterday’s E-expectations talk with Chris D’Orso, Stephanie Geyer, and our own Lance Merker? See it here."
Sep 9
Sara Clark posted a discussion

Missouri State University seeks new media specialist

Missouri State University is accepting applications for a new media specialist in the offices of university communications and Web and new media.Position comes with superior benefits, including group health insurance, life insurance, retirement, tuition waivers, wellness programs and professional development opportunities. Learn more about benefits.Responsibilities:Works to ensure that assigned websites and social media content,…See More
Sep 8
Profile IconAmy Filardo and Jeremy Cumbo joined University Web Developers
Sep 4
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Central Connecticut State University went live with their responsive website. Great job!! www.ccsu.edu"
Sep 4
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Learn more about our 2014 Gadget Challenge with today’s blog post! "
Sep 3
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Part 3 of our E-Expectations series available on our blog! Get the facts you need to improve your best resource—your college website. "
Aug 29
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"Please note that OmniUpdate will be closed this Monday in observance of Labor Day. We wish everyone a safe and happy holiday!"
Aug 28
Beth Hastings replied to Beth Hastings's discussion Columbia College site redesigned - take a look!
"Thanks - I appreciate it! It was a  lot of "new" for us. Personally, I'd done a little bit of responsive design (took a class) but nothing at this level. I'd not done HTML5 or really delved into CSS3 and then finding…"
Aug 28
Patricia Pokrocos posted a discussion

Web Developer

Position SummaryThe School of Engineering and Applied Science (SEAS) in the midst of an exciting period of growth in its capacity to prepare leaders and solve societal problems, and seeks a web developer for the large-scale project of moving the Schools current website to a more modern platform. Reporting to the Director, Engineering Communications, the primary role of the web developer is to setup and build the framework for the new website (utilizing Drupal). The person in this position will…See More
Aug 27
Erin Leavitt commented on Lynn Zawie's group OmniUpdate
"No one loves their college’s website more than Marie Wise! New post by Marie herself up on the blog. Read it now!"
Aug 27

UWEBD has been in existence for more than 10 years and is the very best email discussion list on the Internet, in any industry, on any topic

About

© 2014   Created by Mark Greenfield.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service